Thursday, September 24, 2015

Fight Club 9/24: Against Meat

Jack - Scribe

Andrew - Moderator:
1) Is family or yourself is more important?
2) Why are chicken and carrots are symbolic for the culture?
3) If chicken and carrots are so important to his grandma, why would he support his own individuality?
4) In a constant changing society, is it ok to change tradition?
5) How does this passage demonstrate the power of nature vs nurture?

Maddie - Pro: 1) Lots of reasons to why Vegetarianism is good
- regular meat eating is bad for the environment
- family concerns shouldn't over shadow your own concerns, make your own traditions
- choose to raise their kids in whatever way they want to (still apart of real family, but making their own traditions)
- new diet wouldn't create division in family
- if he hadn't chosen to be vegetarian, he'd live his life as a lie
3) Respect her by eating
- should follow what he believes
4) everything is changing, politics, world, is changing
- history
5) change is great
- nurture how you were raised
- nature is what you believe

Gottsacker - Against:
1) Family is everything
- care about you
- certain practices that are held traditional and things such as these are greater than the individual, it's being a part of a community, and to be a part of a community you must show these beliefs and uphold them
- Grandma's meal is important part of the family's life and he is preventing this meal from being an important part of his kids' life
2) Represents coming together as a community and as a family
- important to family
- Grandmother kept her values in WW2 when she was starving
- he is providing for his family and his kids are doing well
- if Grandmother put all of that pain and suffering to keep her values, he should keep those values
5) goes against tradition
- nurtured himself

"Gottsacker won." - Andrew


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